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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 24, 2007 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: A brief history of split songs

Here's what I've been able to put together with everyone's help:

The earliest split song on record appears to be Schoolgirl > You Don't Love Me > Schoolgirl, sometime in 1966. It's sometimes included with 2-25-66 tracks but is generally thought to be a few months later.

After that, the next I could find was Alligator > China Cat > Eleven > Alligator from 2-23-68 or 2-24-68 (DP22). This is also the only split Alligator I could find. Some track listings for the 4-23-69 Ark show give Alligator > Eleven > Alligator, but the second Alligator is just a jam, while the DP22 second Alligator includes Pigpen's Alligator rap.

Here's the part I find interesting: in April 69, it's like the boys discovered the general principle of splitting songs and played with it for a bit before dropping it. For example:

They did St. Stephen > It's a Sin > St. Stephen on 04-17-69 at Washington University in St. Louis and again on 4-23-69.

On 4-26-69, they did The Other One > Eleven > The Other One, and the next night, they did a monumental Lovelight > Me & My Uncle > Sittin' on Top of the World; Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > conclusion of Lovelight (both on DP26).

After that flurry, they largely cooled down on split songs until near the end of the year.

The first split Dark Star I could find was 11-8-69 at Fillmore Auditorium: Dark Star > The Other One > Dark Star > Uncle John's Band jam > Dark Star (DP16). In the Europe 72 tour, they also split Dark Star with El Paso and Me & My Uncle.

In early 1970, they started splitting St. Stephen with Not Fade Away. The Night at the Family Dog download-series release from 2-4-70 predates the earliest in the databases by four days.

On 10-10-70 at Queens College in NYC, they started the long tradition of splitting Not Fade Away with Going Down the Road Feeling Bad. But while they first preceded that with St. Stephen on the very next night, I don't think they ever did the nested split SS > NFA > GDTRFB > NFA > SS. Oh well.

The first nested split appears to have been Good Lovin' > Caution > Who Do You Love? > Caution > Good Lovin' from 4-14-72 in Copenhagen (on the remastered Europe 72), though the Who Do You Love is a whopping 22 seconds long.

The first split Playin' in the Band in the databases is 10/21/73 in Omaha, NE: Playin' In The Band > Mississippi Half-Step > Big River > Playin' In The Band, kicking off probably the most long-standing and varied split-song tradition. The first nested split of same was Playin' in the Band > Uncle John's Band > Morning Dew > Uncle John's Band > Playin' in the Band, staring on 11-10-73 at Winterland.

Three "club sandwich" splits cited by Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer were:

Dark Star > Attics Of My Life > Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia > Dark Star from 6-24-70
The Other One > Big River > The Other One > Eyes Of The World > The Other One from 11-14-73
Playing In The Band > El Paso > Playing In The Band > Wharf Rat Jam > Dark Star Jam > Wharf Rat > Playing In The Band from 11-21-73

I haven't heard the first. In the case of the latter two, the middle The Other One and Playin' are just jams, so I'm not sure they really count. Anyone know of a club sandwich split with lyrics at every stage? (For you youngsters, a club sandwich has three slices of bread with two compartments for meat and condiments--like a Big Mac.)

Sugar Magnolia was first split on 06/28/74 at Boston Garden, framing the entire second set. Split Sugar Magnolias occurred at least 28 more times from then till 6-10-94 (according to SetList).

Among the other split songs identified in response to my earlier post were Music Never Stopped, Cassidy, Devil in a Blue Dress, Dancin' in the Streets, Slipknot, Scarlet Begonias. I haven't heard all of the shows cited, so I can't confirm every one. But I do heartily call your attention to the Dancin' in the Streets > Wharf Rat > Dancin' in the Streets from 10-10-76 at Oakland Coliseum (DP33), which I find a more varied and interesting version of Dancin' in the Streets than the sacrosanct Cornell version.

For more details, see: http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=112399

Thanks to all for chipping in!

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Poster: BlueMtnMan Date: Mar 24, 2007 11:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

Great work Lou. Really interesting material. Not to rain on your parade, I found a split for Cryptical> Other One> Cryptical on 10-22-67 at Winterland. Possibly the 2nd split. And Yes, both Crypticals have lyrics. This is the first performance of The Other One. The lyrics reflect an infamous water balloon incident involving Bobby and a local SF law enforcement officer. Of course this might not count, as Cryptical and The Other One were originally published as one song.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 24, 2007 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

You guessed it--I consider Cryptical Envelopment to be part of That's it for the Other One, as it was listed on Anthem of the Sun. In fact, the Cryptical Reprise doesn't even go by that name in the track listing on Anthem.

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Mar 24, 2007 4:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

Don't forget a classic :

2-18-71
Dark Star > Wharf Rat > Dark Star

Very first Wharf rat - what a way to make a intro!

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Poster: smi2les Date: Mar 24, 2007 4:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

Harding reminded me to look
Bezerkeley .......one for SRV

PROMISE >
MARY HAD A LITTLE LAMB >
PROMISE/TRUCKIN' >

W/A
NFA >
GDTRFB >
NFA

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-08-14.sbd.ladner.21268.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: mickmac Date: Mar 24, 2007 9:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

I seem to recall, maybe a 2 night stand in Boston, where they played Sugar Magnolia the first night and the Sunshine Daydream part the second...anyone got a memory of this? That could be the longest split (big split?).

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Poster: mickmac Date: Mar 24, 2007 9:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

But then again maybe I'm just crazy.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Nov 11, 2013 11:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

I remember something like that (Or, was it Playin and Playin Reprise?) but I thought it was Maine, for some reason.

Enjoy,
Judge TOOTMO

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Poster: smi2les Date: Mar 25, 2007 3:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

sounds too sweet, but that's a pretty long slit.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 24, 2007 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

Hey Lou--way to go. Really enjoyed reading this...

One question: in 71, Harding, I believe, and elsewhere, M&MUnc is commonly (?) initiated out of jams, typically OOne, I think...did you find this to be the case? Or did they simply come out of a jam (Truckin too I think) and just 'end' with M&MUnc? No way for me to check up on this from where I'm at now, but just curious what you found...

Thanks again.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 24, 2007 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

Scanning SetList, I count eleven split The Other One's in 1971, starting with The Other One > Me & My Uncle > The Other One in Hollywood on 8-6-71 (DP35). There were eight versions with Me & My Uncle in the middle, two with Sittin' on Top of the World, and one with Me & Bobby McGee. In 1970, they split The Other One once each with Me & My Uncle (7-12-70) and Attics of my Life (6-24-70). I think the only full The Other One (with Cryptical Envelopment before and after) they split was 4-26-69.

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Mar 24, 2007 4:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

Another nice Other One sandwich is 5-3-72 Paris

Truckin' > Space > The Other One > Drums > The Other One Jam > Space > Me And Bobby McGee > The Other One > Wharf Rat

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 24, 2007 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A brief history of split songs

Just found a bona fide Alligator > Eleven > Alligator at the Boston Tea Party, 12-30-69. There's no Pigpen rap in the reprise, but the boys do ritually bellow "Alligator" a few times before closing with a bit of feedback and We Bid You Goodnight. Nice long Eleven with some jamming afterwards. Murky sound, but listenable.